're showing your independence, this is what america needs to see, and it was a good interview. and i'm thinking, if you thought that was a good interview, i don't know what a bad interview was, because i knew it wasn't a good interview. >> and what about levi johnston, the father of her grandson, tripp? oprah wanted to know. >> one final question about levi -- will he be invited to thanksgiving dinner? >> you know, that's a great question. it's lovely to think that he would ever even consider such a thing, because of course he is a part of the family, and you want to bring him into the fold and kind of under your wing, and he needs that, too, oprah. he needs to know that he is loved, and he has the most beautiful child. and this can all work out for good, it really kcht we don't have to keep going down this road of controversy and drama all the time. we're not really into the drama. we don't really like that. we're more productive. we have other things to concentrate on and -- >> is that yes, he is coming, or, no, he's not? greta: former white house press secretary dana perino joins